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Unknown

Welcome to the P Pod.

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Unknown

Welcome back once again to the Pod the partnership podcast from the Somerset Safeguarding Children Partnership. Thank you so much for joining us again here today. My name is Steve Maccabee. I'm the training manager for the partnership. And, and I'm really pleased today to have our guest in with us because for quite a number of years now, there's been a very strong focus around making sure when children, young people are taking part in activities and taking part in sports, that they are as safe as we can possibly make it for them.

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Unknown

This was certainly something that came up following the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in England, Wales. The report certainly looking at specific reports within that, things like the Sheldon report looking at sexual abuse within the Football Association. So I'm really pleased today to be joined by my guest, Tracy Sweetland, who's the sports welfare officer for Somerset Activity and Sports Partnership, or SASP, because we do love an acronym.

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Unknown

Tracy, thank you so much for coming along today. It's great to have you here. And it's this is a topic we haven't really covered before. So it's great to have your your input and your expertise. So thank you for joining us. How are you doing. Hi Steve. Thank you for having me on today. It's so great to be here.

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Unknown

Yeah I'm well thank you. Well if it's right, if we're kind of dive into it, if it's okay before we kind of get into the actual topic. For anybody that hasn't heard about SASP before, are you able to just give a bit of an overview, really about sort of what SASP is and what any projects are involved in across the county?

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Unknown

Because I know SASP is an organization itself, is kind of quite heavily involved in quite a number of different aspects, but I know as well, in terms of your role within SASP, it's got a broader than that, hasn't it? So can you sort of just kind of given us a bit of an overview of everything?

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Unknown

So SASP is a charitable trust and it's a member of a nationwide network of 43 active partnerships. We share, a mission of transforming lives through sport and physical activity. So each active partnership is independent and it's governed by a board of trustees and is funded by Sport England and other grant, funding bodies. We all share the same mission.

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Unknown

My role is as sport welfare officer. I'm part of a network of 63 officers across the country who will work within active partnerships, and our role is very briefly to improve culture and welfare in all sports environments. But SASP itself, I'm just going to read you a little list of what we do within health walks. We do health coaching, we do affects the work program, hobbies, activities, disability activities, proactive, working with the National Health Service, unbreakable men in IT together for women and girls.

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Unknown

We do some funding activities. The basically in a nutshell, we help all people in Somerset stay mentally and physically as fit as they possibly can be. Thanks for that. I'd like to say I know that you're involved in loads, and I've worked with a number of your colleagues in different aspects mentioned about Unbreakable Men. And and I think that's really important for people to understand because often when I think when we talk about sports groups as such, I think the mental image that comes up, well, sort of people running around a football pitch, but, you know, like say actually when when I know that approach is not just about physical well-being.

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Unknown

It's about like, say very much that mental health, wellbeing as well, and having that relationship in terms of sort of general wellbeing, including physical activity and, and mental health support, which is, which is great. And I how I know so much you're involved in as an organization has got so many different kind of aspects to it. So it's it's lovely to kind of be working with a number of your, your colleagues on a number of things.

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Unknown

How many, how many people are in SASP? I think there's around about seven people who work for us who all do array of things. Most of us, based around about the community. And we work in a hybrid situation. So some work in the office, some work from home and go into the office and some work surely, in the community, I presume as part of that, a lot of the work you do is linking very closely with other partner organizations, like health colleagues, like local authority.

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Unknown

Absolutely. We work with, a lot of, local authorities. We work with lots of partnerships, and we are definitely part of the partnership, way of working. I spend a lot of my time in and around sports clubs, working with clubs, working with national governing bodies and also attending meetings with other partners as well. And you mentioned that that you are part of a network of similar roles.

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Unknown

If I can just sort of pick into that a little bit for a moment. As I mentioned at the start of this, obviously there's there's been a lot of focus over a number of years on around safeguarding in sport. And I mentioned the report just now in the show report looking at allegations of sexual abuse within the Football Association.

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Unknown

Is your kind of role coming out from that? But. Well, my role actually, as a result of the white review into gymnastics, which found a systemic culture of physical emotional abuse of British gymnast. And as a result of one of those findings, the whole network of sport welfare was founded. Our first colleague came in to post in late 2023.

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Unknown

I started with the network in January of last year and the project runs through till 2027. I'm hopeful it will continue and we can help with sports welfare across all sports activities further down the line. I would hope it would as well because I think there's a risk sometimes, isn't there, that things can be a bit reactionary and we put something short term in place and we put this, but any kind of way.

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Unknown

So yeah, it'd be great if it can continue because I know things have moved on a long way, but still probably got a long way to go. I think. I know, obviously we talk about, safeguarding within schools has got a large section in terms of safeguarding a sport. What does that actually look like in practice? Are there any particular additional considerations that you need to you need to make?

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Unknown

Well, I think the main the main difference is that, most people who coach in clubs and sports activities are volunteers. Obviously, if you go to an organized club, there may be some paid people, but the majority of sports club will have volunteer coaches. And that's where we differ from, schools, who will clearly be paid staff. Whilst we follow the same legislation, we have to be trained, we have to make sure the volunteers are trained to a certain level and all volunteers will have a, a day job or they'll be able to do something during the day.

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Unknown

They have families, they have things they do, and this is something they do when they're coaching with the volunteering to be an enjoyable activity for them. So there's that, that fine balance between giving too much information and the time that someone's got to actually give for this. Yeah, no, I can I can empathize with that. And I run a local youth group and again, it's all volunteer led, which is brilliant.

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Unknown

Like I say, people have got their day jobs, they've got their families. And it's always a real challenge to do any sort of training include safeguarding training, like, say, making sure everybody's on the same page and confident in that area without overloading somebody with too much information and but also making sure everyone's clear about if they have concerns, who do they talk to about that within their organization and kind of, you know, for that person to know what to do, leading on from that as well.

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Unknown

So it is a challenge as well. And I guess within sport in particular, am I right in thinking there'll be other considerations like, I know changing rooms for example, or sometimes might be a quite a lot of physical contact and those kind of extra considerations that need to come in as well. Absolutely. And each sports club will be linked to a national governing body, and we do a lot of work with national governing bodies.

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Unknown

And each will have their own policy, their procedures. Each will have, a national safeguarding policy, which needs to be complied with. If you do have a sport such as rugby or when the martial arts and there is potential physical contact, there's going to be a risk assessment carried out and that will be something national governing body will, make sure that all volunteers, all coaches are aware of.

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Unknown

And that's what I would work with clubs to help them support people to implement the policies. So well on on that note, and in terms of your role in support and safeguarding, in some sense, sports and activity spaces around the county and what what sort of work do you do? What sort of organizations, clubs you work with and what sort of work you've been doing around that?

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Unknown

So I've worked with a whole range of clubs. I've worked with some rugby clubs, netball clubs, hockey, squash, volleyball, martial arts to a small degree, pickleball, lots of different people, lots of activity providers. And what we've been doing is we run forums, we run training opportunities, we run workshops. I've been helping with inducting new welfare officers where you might have a designated safeguarding officer in school.

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Unknown

Every club has to have either a safeguarding office or a welfare officer, depending on the sport. And I work with them to make sure that they're okay with procedures and policy and just help them. But obviously complying with the national governing body's reasons for working their policies, etc.. And you generally find that your support is quite welcomed and people wanting you to kind of get involved and provide advice.

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Unknown

Or do you find barriers sometimes in kind of getting through those doors? There's a lot of diversity in terms of different groups and different activities that take place. Anything from like, say, some organized sports clubs to a village hall, martial arts group, for example. Do you find people who generally open to your support of the whole? When I first started in this role, I think there was a lot of skepticism, a lot of worry about what this new role was all about, what safeguarding was about, what welfare was about.

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Unknown

A lot of clubs, a lot of activity providers were thinking, well, we know what we do and we don't really need extra help. But now we're over 18 months in and, our help has been accepted. A lot of people are coming back asking for more training. For example, I had a call last week, could we provide dementia training?

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Unknown

Could we do some more mental health support training? And that's something, we're funded by Sport England to do, and we'll be organizing those courses very soon. It sounds great. And like I say, I think sometimes that can be a bit of a fear of somebody coming in saying, well, let's help me with that. But actually it is about helping and supporting it and less and time that training that's available, that sounds amazing and such a such a great opportunity for people to make the most of a thing.

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Unknown

So with these organizations you work with or I guess kind of nationally, are there any sort of common safeguarding challenges that you see arising in that sort of grassroots sports organization? We talked about the challenges sometimes in terms of volunteers and volunteers time, but are there any sort of common themes or common issues that you see sort of coming up?

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Unknown

I think for me, the the main problem is where certain volunteers don't feel that they need to do training, they don't need to be involved in anything other than being able to coach because they were an ex-player or an ex participant in whatever sport it is, and they feel that they know enough. My perception is that even if you're a good player, whatever sport it might be, you still need to learn to coach and that for me is the biggest problem we have in sports clubs and that how do you kind of work with them to help them to understand those, those safeguarding responsibilities?

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Unknown

I think, but becoming a whole club approach and we work with club development. So it's not just about welfare and safe building. That's one of the things we talk about. It's about developing the whole club so that everybody involved in the club, can have a great environment and have great fun with what they're doing. But being as professionals, they can be in the voluntary sector.

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Unknown

It's interesting just you were talking, I was thinking, I, I get a few sort of inquiries coming into me sometimes because of my role. And somebody did, make an inquiry with me a while back, and they weren't a sports organization, but they were they were a charity. And worked with adults and and may occasionally have children coming in.

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Unknown

And actually, the person, the person who contacted me was was brilliant. She was being very proactive. And she was saying, look, you know, actually we're not doing this at the moment, but we're looking at potentially unethical groups coming to us and things, and I want to make sure we get it right. And I want to get a safeguarding policy in place.

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Unknown

We don't have one at the moment. I think it's really important that we do and just want to make sure that we're doing all the right things. And so she was being really proud to be her guy, but it was interesting. I had a bit of a conversation with her and they were volunteer led, and she was saying what the barriers they were coming up against was that there was a kind of belief amongst some of the other members and some of the other volunteers that if they got a safeguarding policy in place, that meant that they then had responsibility for safeguarding, whereas if they didn't have a policy in place, they weren't responsible for

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Unknown

it. And, I know for those of you that are listening to this, Tracey is pulling a face at me. I wish I, I call you back because. Yeah, but again, they didn't see themselves in that light. I say, just be clear. They weren't a sports club. They weren't providing activities. And this person that did contact me was trying to be really proactive.

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Unknown

And she was she was great and she was desperate trying to get that message across. I look, you know, doesn't mean we're not responsible if we don't have a policy. We still have that responsibility. The policy is just actually how we respond to that responsibility. I think getting across the fact that safeguarding is everyone's responsibility. Yeah. Those who work in education and in sports that have had the training realize that, but it's people's perceptions.

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Unknown

So as you say, we're all responsible in life for whatever we do. And, it's so important for people to be empowered to act, even if you just do one small thing of calling someone for help. If there's a problem, it means you're doing something. We've just been running some active bystander behavior training, and that's the, the thing we get across most.

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Unknown

If you do nothing, nothing will change. If you do something, something's going to happen. And hopefully it will be a good something that happens. No, I think it's really important message that, isn't it. So you've talked about organizations with took that you know they may be volunteers. I'm just thinking in terms of parents and the role that sort of parents and carers play in, in regards to safeguarding sport.

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Unknown

I do find it's still very much a case of drop your child off and go off and do the shopping at Tesco's, or do you find out that they are, or they need to be sort of taking more active role in checking out, you know, who's looking after their children and making sure they've got all the things in place they need to parents, carers so important in sport that it's not always possible as a parent to be at every sports class with every child, especially, I have more than one child.

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Unknown

You can't be everywhere at other times, as any parent will know, but to take an interest to make sure that your sports club or activity you're sending your child to is run in the correct way. Ask questions. Be really curious. As a parent, you know who am I leaving my children with? Are they, for example, are they qualified?

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Unknown

Do they have a DBS? Do they have a safeguarding policy? Do they have a safeguarding officer? Was the culture like what does it feel like? It's that feeling of something's good. I'm leaving my children with. If we send our children to school, we we obviously expect that the people are qualified and, are carers by nature. We send them to a sports club.

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Unknown

Sometimes we might just not ask those questions, but I think it's really important for parents to just be a bit more curious. And of course, if they like what they see, they can get involved with the volunteering there as well. And that will also help the club and develop the club. No, definitely. It's like, is I just just just asking.

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Unknown

Nice. Quite not being afraid to ask those questions. Have they got a website of the. Got any policies on the website. Yeah. Checking those things out and just making sure that that who they're leaving that you're with are are qualified and it's quite often we talk about making sure there's a safeguarding culture within organizations. And yeah, that very much translated across to sports organizations as well.

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Unknown

And having that culture around safeguarding is something that we take seriously. We have things in place to support safeguarding and communicating that. And actually the way I always say these things is, if you've got an organization that's got all these things in place, they'll be more than happy to share them with you and show you their policies or show them on the website where they are, promote them on the website, or, yeah, all of these kind of things.

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Unknown

And I guess the my message from that would be, don't be afraid to ask, because those that have got in place would be, yeah, very happy to share that I guess. Do you see that into that, developing that culture? Those clubs that are you on board with the whole embracing the family environment, embracing the whole family, rather than just a child who's eight and ten a policy and, and stays there.

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Unknown

Those, those clubs who welcome everybody in, who show you that they are really a caring environment, who've got the safeguarding policy on the noticeboards, they've got a picture of the welfare office that you can see, and your child can see who the person is if there's any problems. And it may just be a problem of, I've lost my shoe, I've lost my, I've lost my tie or whatever it is I've left in the corner and forgotten to pick up.

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Unknown

If you can see a picture of someone that looks friendly and ask someone you can help you as a club, allow the children to talk to you about the small things we always say. The small things are the ones that matter the most. Allow the children to tell you about absolutely everything you know. What did you have for tea today?

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Unknown

How's granny? How's the dog, etc. etc. if they feel comfortable to talk to you about something, they will always then feel they can trust you to talk about something. If in the future something does go wrong. And that's crucial. Yeah, know and I guess I guess in terms of by any organization that there's a couple of different sides around safeguarding isn't there.

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Unknown

One is around making sure that that child in person is safe when they are with that organization and in their care, but also for that organization to feel confident if the child discloses something about something that's affecting them at home or outside of the home, for example, or knowing how to respond to to both of those, isn't it?

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Unknown

And I think people recognizing there is that responsibility on both sides to make sure they're safe with you, but also that you can respond to things if they don't feel safe outside of your care as well. Things obviously change and evolve all the time, don't I? And we often talk about this, you know, in training that run and podcast that we've done is things are constantly kind of changing and evolving.

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Unknown

And I mentioned the earlier I mentioned the children report, you talked about your role in that, how that came into being. Are you seeing things kind of developing? And you said in terms of the kind of the role and the the work you're doing that's there until 2027, presumably kind of there were kind of aims of that, that sort of work and, and the development of it.

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Unknown

I guess what what have you seen? You evolve, things evolve. And where would where would you want them to get to be? One of the most important things that is going on at the minute is asking children and participants what they actually want in their clubs. So this project we're working on at the moment, the voice of the child, and that's across most sports, and most environments so that children have a voice participants.

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Unknown

My role isn't just about children, it's about adults as well. It's all very well setting up a club and the people that run the club having an idea of how it should work. But the people that come to your club want to feel wanted and valued, and they want to enjoy what they do most are there. So if you ask people what they want, how they, how they like to play, to be talked to, etc., etc., a great coach is someone that listens to, the participant, before, during and after a match or an activity.

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Unknown

So that for me is the most important change that I can see going on at the moment. And that's great. I like going to clubs where it's really proactive environment. Have you got any good case study examples of anybody you've worked with, where they've come from and where they are now? I'm working with quite a few clubs at the moment, and they're all on their journey of new coaches, more experienced coaches, and I think for coaches to be complacent is is not a great thing.

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Unknown

But those coaches that embrace the journey and are always learning, they always do the extra courses, always do that bit of CPD, always do that extra thing that isn't necessarily asked for by the national governing body. That gives them that extra edge, and you'll see what a good club and a coach coaches like by the amount of participants.

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Unknown

Your child, if you're a parent or a carer, will know they want to go back the next week because it's just great fun and that's what it should be about. Ultimately, it's great fun first and foremost with all of those opportunities within it to to learn and grow and develop and develop social skills and interactivity skills and all these kind of things.

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Unknown

And that's that's really what it's about the, the, the heart of that for I think for any child or young person, it's about that enjoyment, isn't it really driving it forward and that wanting to engage with it. And the safer an organization is, the more there's that opportunity to be able to do that thing alongside that as well.

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Unknown

And I'm just thinking in terms of any organizations you might work with or any additional considerations for any organizations, for, those who work with children who have additional needs or additional vulnerabilities, is there any particular work you do around children with with additional needs? So we've done quite a few bits of training, and we've had some workshops that we've offered up to, members within Somerset and further afield.

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Unknown

Obviously, we've had some people pop up from Devon and Bristol Bath area as well who've come onto our training. But the main thing is people are people. We treat everybody in the same way. We might need some more support. We might need a bit more training as professionals, as coaches, as volunteers. But to listen, listen to what's one to listen to?

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Unknown

How we can change our sessions, seek support because there's always someone that can help you. Whatever opportunity is required, there's always someone that could, give that opportunity. And I'm happy to direct people to either colleagues in SASP or further afield who can help with training. In terms of some, any advice you'd give to any safeguarding liaise club, welfare officers, club safeguarding officers or anybody thinking about?

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Unknown

Yeah, I'd like to set something up. Is there any advice that you'd give them around sort of safeguarding in particular. We can help with that. At SASP in Sport Welfare, any of us across the country can help that. But in Somerset myself, we can help if they're part of a governing body Festival is, part of a governing body.

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Unknown

They will have on their website lots and lots of useful information. But what I'm working on at the moment is a training module, a workshop that I can give to people who are starting out kind of an induction type thing. So if you're brand new, what do you need to do? What are those basic things you need to do?

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Unknown

For example, you need to have a safeguarding policy. Your club needs to have either a welfare or a safeguarding officer, depending on the sport. It's the same thing. Effectively, your club needs to have the certain things set up and we can help you with all of that to just get the basics done. And then we can also help down the line with further, continuous professional development and CPD to help you be the best that you can be.

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Unknown

Amazing. And is there a cost associated with that? I'm thinking about people listening to this going, well, that sounds great, but not sure we can afford that. The majority of our courses are all free. Majority of our workshops are okay. The ones we do charge for or the UK coaching, safeguarding, protecting children and the welfare training, which is formerly known as Time to Listen.

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Unknown

We charge a very small amount for those purely because they're certificated. But the majority of what we do is free. Yeah. And like I say though, those are those with nationally accredited courses. So, yeah, there's a cost associated with those as there are with with most if not all nationally certified courses in that. So I'm leading up to that.

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Unknown

The other obvious question is how do people get in touch with you? How do they find out more about support, get directly in contact with yourself. Okay. Well, SASP, do you have a website which is suspect? Co.Uk you can contact me directly at Sweetland at SASP bbc.co.uk. There's a link actually on the, Somerset's website that, Steve works with and, hopefully you'll be able to find me there some way or other, but anyone at SASP, we have to direct you to me.

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Unknown

Yeah,and as Tracy said, we are we are busy at the moment. I don't think it's been published just yet, but we are busy at the moment building a web page around safeguarding and support. I know my colleague, Rebecca has been working with you recently, Tracy, around pulling that information together. Including contact details for yourself.

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Unknown

So, hopefully we'll do what we can to get that, that web page up and running, in time for this to be published. If we can. So and I'm thinking this as well, the other thing I just wanted to highlight, which I'm sure you're very actively sort of aware of and involved in as well, is the, the upcoming campaign we've got soon, which is, keeping your child safe in sport run by the, the NSPCC Child Protection Sport Unit.

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Unknown

Are you doing anything for that? We have a whole load of activities planned on the Monday. We've got, face to face training session in Bridgewater, which is working with NWG, who? I think you've done some work with yourselves National Working Group.    . Yes. Active bystander behavior. All the details are on our website across the week.

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Unknown

We've got lots of, snippets of information. And yes, we do work all the time with the Child Protection and Support Unit. So for anybody listening, we're going to try, if we can, to get this podcast out. That is the 6th to the 12th of October of this year. So if you're listening to this now, you may well have it coordinated in with that week.

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Unknown

So check out and check out our social media post as well, because we'll be promoting it for any links to, to SASP blue we've been talking about again, I'll pop those in the description for this episode as well, I guess. Tracy, just, just to round us off if we can, if there's kind of one message you could give to any professional, every professionals who are working with children in sport, I guess.

00:27:24:16 - 00:27:49:04

Unknown

What would be your takeaway for them? I think for me, it's to ask people to remember it's about having fun for the children, the participants and for yourself in a safe environment. However, that should not. Oh, there we go. Look at that. And in a neat nutshell, perfect way to end off. So, Tracy, thank you so much for coming in today for meeting with me and, and talking through this.

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Unknown

And I say for many people, it would be an area that they're not particularly aware of. So it's great to raise awareness of it and hopefully great for sports organizations to have a think about what they can do to put into practice to make sure that they've got a good safeguarding culture within their organizations, but also for parents, carers of professionals thinking about actually, how can we try and support those organizations and support our children to make sure is a safe environment for them to go to as well?

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Unknown

So Tracy, thank you so much for your time today. Really appreciate it and best of luck with the upcoming campaign very shortly as well. Take care of yourself. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. No absolute pleasure and hopefully we'll speak again soon. Thank you. Thanks, Tracy. Take care. Bye bye. Bye bye.

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Unknown

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Or even better, leave a review and let others know about it. And make sure to let your colleagues know about this podcast and encourage them to come and join us here as well. It really does help to spread the word. Now, if you have any questions or comments arising from today's episode, or would you would like to be involved in future episodes, we'd love you to get in touch with us at theppod@somerset.gov.uk.

00:29:12:08 - 00:29:30:12

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Once again, I'd like to give a huge thank you to my guest today, Tracy Sweetland, Sports Welfare Officer from SASP. And as always, I'd like to thank you for listening. My name is Steve Macabee and I'm the training manager for the Somerset Safeguarding Children Partnership. And I look forward to you joining us again next time at the P-Pod.

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Let's work together to help keep children safe.